Final Project: Hands on with Meshmoon Lead Developer Jonne Nauha

While I was working on my Immersive Library yesterday I had a run in with Jonne Nauha, the lead Developer for Meshmoon.  He just dropped into my world after I made it public for the class.  He was pumped that we were using his program for our class.  He even wrote me the script for clickable images, as well as acknowledging that they had a long way to go with the build tools.  I don't know that we even require clickable images at this point, but it was cool to get stuff hands on.  The only disconnect is that he put the script directly into my Scene Storage.  I'm not totally sure how to make it work for everyone else.

Download the script here:  https://wfs.bc.edu:443/langonea/click-open-url.js
(You'll have to download it to your desktop and then upload to your scene storage within Rocket Client.)

Below are some shots of my interaction with him, some useful extracts, and the full transcript for anyone interested.

This shot shows some of the windows that he was talking me through regarding the script (see excerpt below)

Useful Extracts:

Enabling the Script for Clickable images...

[13:24:45] JonneNauha ok man

[13:24:48] open your storage

[13:24:59] AndrewLangone k

[13:25:06] JonneNauha go to script folder

[13:25:18] right click on my script and open in text editor

[13:25:40] AndrewLangone k

[13:25:49] JonneNauha i left comments in there so you understand whats going on

[13:25:57] AndrewLangone awesome thanks.

[13:26:05] JonneNauha i put it to the frame in front of me

[13:26:09] left mouse click on it

[13:26:16] you should get this notification on top

[13:26:23] click allow

[13:26:41] this is what you more or less wanted?

[13:27:05] now, you want to copy this same script to the other frames

[13:27:10] AndrewLangone yes totally

[13:27:16] JonneNauha hit shift+E

[13:27:29] you get entity component editor window

[13:27:34] AndrewLangone k

[13:27:46] JonneNauha now click on the frame in front

[13:28:05] mouse select the "Script" component

[13:28:10] AndrewLangone k i'm using the tattoo one

[13:28:25] JonneNauha yeah, but we need to copy the script component first

[13:28:29] and paste it to other frames

[13:28:36] AndrewLangone oh ok

[13:28:45] JonneNauha so click this one, righty click on "Script" -> Copy

[13:29:00] AndrewLangone k

[13:29:00] JonneNauha then click on your other frame and right click -> paste

[13:29:05] or you can use ctrl+c/v

[13:30:02] AndrewLangone ha oops

[13:30:05] it worked though

[13:30:06] JonneNauha seems to work

[13:30:08] yeh

[13:30:21] the user interface is kind of weird

[13:30:26] AndrewLangone the warning repeats until i cancel it

[13:30:30] JonneNauha but, we need user autorization

[13:30:43] AndrewLangone underestoof

[13:30:44] understood

[13:30:49] JonneNauha well it does not ignore duplicates right now :)

[13:30:52] if you click many times

[13:31:00] i will fix that for next release

Some more regarding script installation...

[13:33:13] AndrewLangone ok great

[13:33:16] thanks so much

[13:33:21] JonneNauha no problem :D

[13:33:28] one more thing

[13:33:40] you can download that script from storage

[13:33:43] right click -> download

[13:34:01] you can give it to other people, they can upload it also to their own storage

[13:34:14] and they need to manually create the EC_Script component

[13:34:19] setup it like you had it

[13:34:31] it gets a bit involved but i think this is good school assignment

[13:34:37] maybe you can tell you professor :)

[13:34:44] to make it homework or something

[13:34:52] how to setup a meshmoon script to a frame :)

[13:34:55] dunno

[13:34:57] AndrewLangone alright cool

[13:35:02] He'll go nuts over this

[13:35:09] JonneNauha heh

[13:35:12] AndrewLangone the fact that you helped me will be huge haha

[13:35:20] JonneNauha tell him too to contact me if anything comes up

[13:35:25] questions etc.

[13:35:26] AndrewLangone sure thing

Full Transcript:

[12:55:13] JonneNauha hi :) [12:55:28] I'm the lead developer at Meshmoon [12:55:31] AndrewLangone Hello [12:55:35] JonneNauha dont be alarmed :) [12:55:43] AndrewLangone I'm not. I recognized your name [12:55:49] JonneNauha oh ok [12:55:53] cool world [12:56:09] AndrewLangone It's part of a class I'm taking at Boston College [12:56:30] JonneNauha oh right, yeah [12:56:34] what course is it? [12:56:35] AndrewLangone you'll probably notice about 20 "Immersive Libraries" popping up [12:56:42] 3D/Virtual Reality [12:57:23] JonneNauha cool that you use our system [12:57:30] we are a small shop in Finland :) [12:57:39] AndrewLangone still trying to get the hang of it lol [12:57:56] JonneNauha we have a long way in terms of these build tools etc. [12:58:04] compared to opensim/second life and others [12:58:10] but we are getting there [12:58:15] AndrewLangone it's still pretty powerful from the little exposure I have. [12:58:24] JonneNauha lots of basic things are still too hard to accomplish [12:58:28] AndrewLangone I'm working on trying to get Blender stuff imported [12:59:00] JonneNauha did you get the blender exporter installed [12:59:06] blender2ogre [12:59:12] AndrewLangone OGRE? yeah [12:59:24] JonneNauha i think if you use the latest blender you have to use the .zip installers [12:59:34] which kind of sucks, lot more manual tweaking [12:59:35] AndrewLangone I still get errors trying to bring the txml in [12:59:39] JonneNauha to get the plugin working [12:59:41] AndrewLangone ah ok, maybe thats it [13:00:05] JonneNauha could you zip the txml and assets and send to my email? [13:00:08] i could check it out [13:00:12] what is the error? [13:00:17] anything sensible [13:00:45] AndrewLangone It's basically a desert scene i pulled from an online repository.. so it could broken in itself [13:01:03] JonneNauha did you use the .exe installer for the plugin? [13:01:29] AndrewLangone likely. [13:01:39] JonneNauha ok i think that version wont work with latest blender [13:01:39] AndrewLangone I'm not super savvy with this kind of stuff [13:01:50] JonneNauha https://code.google.com/p/blender2ogre/downloads/list [13:01:57] i recond you need the 0.6.0 version [13:02:00] recon [13:02:18] i dont develop that plugin myself, but my tutorial video points to the .msi installer :) [13:02:54] but god damn you raise some good points :P [13:02:59] AndrewLangone OK that is the blender2ogre I have [13:03:04] JonneNauha we need to make more detailed info how to install this stuff [13:03:07] ok good [13:03:11] AndrewLangone yeah for us noobs [13:03:21] JonneNauha well, for everyone :) [13:03:34] AndrewLangone My class spent a week trying to figure out how to make clickable images. only to find out that it's not enabled or something [13:03:50] The professor knew.. he just wanted us to figure it out [13:04:01] JonneNauha ok oh [13:04:09] well actually... i just implemented that you can do it :) [13:04:15] if you want to suprise your professor [13:04:25] i can write you a script to your storage [13:04:28] :D [13:04:36] AndrewLangone do tell! [13:05:40] JonneNauha ill make you a template script [13:05:41] a sec [13:06:00] jochen logged in [13:06:21] did you update to 2.5.2.1 rocket? [13:06:29] you can see from the titlebar [13:06:31] AndrewLangone yes [13:09:04] jochen good evening, I am just looking whats new [13:09:24] AndrewLangone Not much. You're standing inside my final project haha [13:09:44] jochen yes just inside [13:09:56] JonneNauha hi [13:10:08] hi jochen :) [13:10:16] jochen Hi Jonne [13:11:30] is that art? [13:11:42] JonneNauha you dog and tattoo Andrew? [13:11:56] AndrewLangone yes my ink and dog [13:12:22] and the monkey head is just experimental. [13:12:31] using this space to test functionaility [13:14:01] JonneNauha sec i need to relogin [13:14:06] ill finish your script :) [13:14:08] JonneNauha logged out [13:14:39] JonneNauha logged in [13:14:58] jochen nice work! Have a good evening! [13:15:06] AndrewLangone thanks! take care [13:15:06] JonneNauha yeh [13:15:10] jochen logged out [13:19:17] ok dude [13:19:27] you want to open the image that is in the frame in web browser? [13:19:35] with the ones you have image in [13:20:18] AndrewLangone basically, he wanted us to be able click on the image and have it open an external browser [13:22:09] similar to how this functions with a browser [13:24:45] JonneNauha ok man [13:24:48] open your storage [13:24:59] AndrewLangone k [13:25:06] JonneNauha go to script folder [13:25:18] right click on my script and open in text editor [13:25:40] AndrewLangone k [13:25:49] JonneNauha i left comments in there so you understand whats going on [13:25:57] AndrewLangone awesome thanks. [13:26:05] JonneNauha i put it to the frame in front of me [13:26:09] left mouse click on it [13:26:16] you should get this notification on top [13:26:23] click allow [13:26:41] this is what you more or less wanted? [13:27:05] now, you want to copy this same script to the other frames [13:27:10] AndrewLangone yes totally [13:27:16] JonneNauha hit shift+E [13:27:29] you get entity component editor window [13:27:34] AndrewLangone k [13:27:46] JonneNauha now click on the frame in front [13:28:05] mouse select the "Script" component [13:28:10] AndrewLangone k i'm using the tattoo one [13:28:25] JonneNauha yeah, but we need to copy the script component first [13:28:29] and paste it to other frames [13:28:36] AndrewLangone oh ok [13:28:45] JonneNauha so click this one, righty click on "Script" -> Copy [13:29:00] AndrewLangone k [13:29:00] JonneNauha then click on your other frame and right click -> paste [13:29:05] or you can use ctrl+c/v [13:30:02] AndrewLangone ha oops [13:30:05] it worked though [13:30:06] JonneNauha seems to work [13:30:08] yeh [13:30:21] the user interface is kind of weird [13:30:26] AndrewLangone the warning repeats until i cancel it [13:30:30] JonneNauha but, we need user autorization [13:30:43] AndrewLangone underestoof [13:30:44] understood [13:30:49] JonneNauha well it does not ignore duplicates right now :) [13:30:52] if you click many times [13:31:00] i will fix that for next release [13:31:10] AndrewLangone yeah i got a bunch of the same browser window. but it's totally fine [13:31:16] JonneNauha please share the documented script with your class :) [13:31:20] AndrewLangone will do [13:31:27] will this work similarly with pdfs? [13:31:41] JonneNauha hmm not sure [13:31:48] we convert PDF to single images [13:31:53] do you have one here? [13:32:00] AndrewLangone not yet [13:32:10] i'm getting ahead of myself here [13:32:23] JonneNauha send me a mail once its here i can check it out [13:32:32] we can detect the type, but i think the original pdf url is not anywhere [13:32:35] AndrewLangone whats your email? [13:32:44] JonneNauha BUT i can make the script detect it from another attribute [13:32:50] then you can put anything you want there [13:33:03] jonne@adminotech.com [13:33:07] or just send support email [13:33:09] i read those [13:33:13] AndrewLangone ok great [13:33:16] thanks so much [13:33:21] JonneNauha no problem :D [13:33:28] one more thing [13:33:40] you can download that script from storage [13:33:43] right click -> download [13:34:01] you can give it to other people, they can upload it also to their own storage [13:34:14] and they need to manually create the EC_Script component [13:34:19] setup it like you had it [13:34:31] it gets a bit involved but i think this is good school assignment [13:34:37] maybe you can tell you professor :) [13:34:44] to make it homework or something [13:34:52] how to setup a meshmoon script to a frame :) [13:34:55] dunno [13:34:57] AndrewLangone alright cool [13:35:02] He'll go nuts over this [13:35:09] JonneNauha heh [13:35:12] AndrewLangone the fact that you helped me will be huge haha [13:35:20] JonneNauha tell him too to contact me if anything comes up [13:35:25] questions etc. [13:35:26] AndrewLangone sure thing [13:35:31] JonneNauha i gradly help with this kind of stuff [13:35:36] to get you going [13:35:58] yeah you can say meshmoon lead developer spent an hour with you :D [13:36:00] AndrewLangone much appreciated [13:36:00] JonneNauha lol [13:36:04] im a rock start, haha [13:36:08] AndrewLangone haha [13:36:10] JonneNauha see u later dude [13:36:15] AndrewLangone later man [13:36:17] JonneNauha logged out [13:36:18] thanks again